Destroying the Laboratory for the Sake of the Experiment (DTLFTSOTE) is a collaboration with the poet Daniel Cockrill.

This multifaceted project began in 2006 as an experiment and continued, off and on, until 2010. Together we travelled to different parts of England, to a particular a town or city, and shared similar experiences, reacting independently. It was an exercise in seeing, and selecting what each of us thought interesting or important at any given time.

An exhibition at the Atlas Gallery in 2010 suggested a variety of two- and three-dimensional answers to the perennial problem of using image and text (in this case Dan's poems) together. But, ultimately, more interesting is the way that a random combination of pictures and spoken word can throw up, by chance, juxtapositions which can alter the meanings of either, or both.